one used a vocoder in a single verse of a single live version of a single song is ridiculous.--feline1 14:35, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC). Skinny Puppy - Glass Houses (Live New York 1985) Quinn Odell. -- Oarih 05:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC), So, is there some other way of distinguishing vocoder from other robot effects, or should the split proposal be put to rest? Free Radical. 2006-10-29 10:00:16 AM : Fnerg? by StFiend: Wed Mar 21 2001 at 7:16:39: Everything is not better with vocoders. Zombiejesus (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC). Vocalist Nivek Ogre considered it one of the band's better songs. Especially when combined with a prominent sectional link to the split-page. Worlock is a single by the band Skinny Puppy from the album Rabies. In Case of the Ex by Mya, the vocoder was used only once, to accentuate an interesting vocal line, and it works beautifully. Or what?77Mike77 (talk) 12:19, 1 April 2013 (UTC), This section badly needs rewriting as it must be virtually incomprehensible to the general reader with no technical backround. ), as well as a short monophonic line in the second episode. (I assume they were not very important entries. In anycase, I would appreciate if some kind of list is compiled of songs that use a vocoder. Most other songs are accompanied in some other way, while "Hide and Seek" is just voice processed through a vocoder. The Dalek voices were NOT done with vocoders, as the BBC Radiophonic workshop did not own one in 1963. This link features three 15 minute episodes of the first radio show of comedian Henry Morgan ("Here's Morgan"), produced somewhere between 1940 and the 1950's. To me, WORLOCK is one of Skinny Puppy's best tracks, despite coming off RABIES, one of their most uneven albums. Bill Johnson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.103.77.78 (talk) 05:45, 9 September 2011 (UTC), Vocoder represents the tag line -(VOCAL OPTiCAL Coder) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill Riojas Mclemore (talk • contribs) 22:13, 28 September 2011 (UTC), I'm sorry, but it's a total sham that this article states that the Cylons (in Battlestar Galacticta used ring-modulation, but fails to make any mention of the daleks using the same method, since 15 years previously. Jay CiR. (ie. Tore pen in vain. In the hands of a true artist, a vocoder can be a valuable tool. They are also pioneers of Industrial, so I am going to return this to the list. But this article is conspicuously lacking mentions of Peter Thomas for the theme to Raumpatrouille (1966), and Bruce Haack's Electric Lucifer (1970). Also, the second paragraph claims that the process "results in a series of numbers". I don't know if you are hinting at how fickle people can be or it is surprising that some people really do have a top three skinny puppy tracks. And this was before Herbie Hancock. Can't we keep it to something like 5 good (not necessarily best, but fairly representative) songs per decade and, if necessary, make the List of songs which use vocoders as Omegatron previous suggested? 2006-10-29 9:50:42 AM : Rabies is such a kick ass album. Yesh! Recent edits to the article seem to have revolved around adding examples of vocoder use in the pop music world. Not a vocoder. Directed by Dean English, Kevin 'ohGr' Ogilvie, Dermot Shane. I think the "Vocoder Theory" section is weak in general. Worlock by Skinny Puppy; Saviour (vox) by VNV Nation; You too can sound like some inhuman mechanical fiend bent on world destruction. I was pretty amazed to find such a typical sound in such an early example in this radio show, which is published under CC "Public Domain" and hence can be used for demonstration on WP. Écoutez Worlock (Ed) par Skinny Puppy - The Singles Collect. There is no need to list every artist, album etc using a vocoder. The concepts are not difficult, they are just very badly expressed. As for telling them apart, I think it's enough in the main article to mention that it's frequently confused with [these other things] (maybe even specifying a few particularly well-known non-vocoder examples). The spark from the synths in worlock are dull and boring. here [1] on the Internet Archive's OTR section. This coupled with the fact that she continued (and continues) to make use of it in her work would seem to make her relationship with it more important than some of the "one off" instances listed. ~ P-123 (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC). From the 1989 album, "Rabies". "Worlock" features a vocoder prominently throughout the chorus with a rather stunning impact which has lead it to become one of the band's most well known and beloved songs. List of music releases featuring a vocoder, Vocoder in musical context prior to the 1970's. There are so many of their tracks that are like proverbs to me in a philosophical way. Écoutez de la musique de Skinny Puppy comme Assimilate, Worlock et bien plus encore. And yes, most of what rivet mentioned is good, too. Listen free to Skinny Puppy – Worlock (Worlock (Ed), Worlock (Lp Mix) and more). Binge, cringe, cringe, binge. "Worlock" features a vocoder prominently throughout the chorus with a rather stunning impact which has lead it to become one of the band's most well known and beloved songs. I wonder why they were not included before. Skinny Puppy : Worlock paroles et traduction de la chanson . I will respectfully state that I think it is incorrect to consider some of my options as being "poorly-chosen" or "rediculous". Worlock (Hildesheim Version) Skinny Puppy. The title should be something like "robotic voice effects". Worlock | Skinny Puppy. A block diagram of a basic vocoder would help: Jim Aitkin has one here for example.I realize people would like to get musical instances in this article ... and some towards the end seem appropriate ... but really, it needs to concentrate on the hard job of describing a vocoder so more people can understand the idea. First, this could describe any digital process. (Seul l'instant présent est réel!) The Industrial music genre is notable for it's vocoder work, whihc is apparent in almost any major band within it, in some song or another. Discover more music, concerts, videos, and pictures with the largest catalogue online at Last.fm. Worlock Skinny Puppy (now is the only thing that's real) Binge, cringe, cringe, binge, sloppy Binge, cringe, (the police used to watch over the people, Now they're watching the people) Sloppy, mincing, eyedropping, biopsy. Statistics Have: 125; Want: 126; Avg Rating: 4.63 / 5 Ratings: 16; … Self confessed criminal. In 1993 the CD edition was reissued by Nettwerk to correct mastering errors in the original release. 24.183.225.73 (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC). Many of Front 242 drums are created with vocoders, for example. Edit Release All Versions of this Release Data Correct . The talk box article for one, cited a good number of examples quite perfectly to my needs with enough varied artists to find through my collection of songs to hear what one sounds like. Their voices were further processed electronically by Brian Hodgson at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. On second thought, maybe this is not such a good idea. Album Live: Bootlegged, Broke and in Solvent Seas. I wouldn't mind this don't the same, heh. Album Rabies. Musical application in "non-popular" music variety was not uncommon before (Stockhausen? If I was wrong, then you can return some of them), User:Raindog469: If you click on the soundonsound.com link today, you'll see a footnote explaining that Cher's engineer did, in fact, use the Autotune. Makes sense. In the Musical History section, I added R&B singer Roger Troutman. Deezer : musique en streaming gratuite. Arru 10:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC), While I'm here, I think the article is not too good as it stands; it has a "written by committee" feel. Worlock (Now is the only thing that's real!) The reason I put this up in the first place was definitely thinking anyone who was wondering what a vocoder is would like to find examples of it in use, as many simply do not understand how it could possibly sound. This may not be important for the article, but it shows that musical vocoder application as we know it didn't start with Wendy Carlos or Kraftwerk. But every time I hear a new boring, formulaic pop song that's been drenched in vocoder in a vain attempt to make it more interesting, hip or innovative, I want to vomit. Hope to see his reference reinstated. 04:43 Composers: Ken Marshall - Kevin Crompton - Kevin Ogilvie - Mark Walk. Streamez en Hi-Fi ou téléchargez en vraie qualité CD sur qobuz.com Hide and Seek from Imogen Heap was on this list : this incorrect, she used a harmoniser, a real time multichannel transposer, for this song. As far as I know George Clinton and Roger Troutman mostly used talkboxes (I'm fairly confident Roger Troutman never used a vocoder), and likewise I think that Rihanna, T-Pain and Kanye West mostly use Autotune, which, while it uses phase vocoding techniques, I don't think that anyone thinks of it as a vocoder. Nahum Reduta 06:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC) — Whenever I think of vocoders, I think of Zapp and Roger, or perhaps the other way around. The musical community of reddit Deezer : musique en streaming gratuite. Anyone completely ignorant of how a vocoder works would find it difficult if not impossible to understand it based on this explanation. This edit made a statement about the location of spectral peaks in a filterbank. Also, the phrase 'instantaneous frequency' is both not particularly illuminating, and in fact also technically meaningless; I'm not even sure what the original author meant, phase information perhaps? Babbler dabbler. This is a very old, very popular example of a "talking guitar" and was my introduction to the instrument. I agree, Cunningham should be all over this list, but blaming his absence of this being all major label stuff is kind of silly. Beyond that, giving a decent list of positive examples of what it IS and what it sounds like, including notable usage-examples, should be fine for this article. The track itself takes the scary attitude that the Puppies have carefully cultivated and merges it with a ghostly melody that serves it well. Examples: "Only God Knows Why" by Kid Rock. So I wouldn't say it's off topic but has grown a little too comprehensive for this purpose. Skinny Puppy. I'm trying to clean this article up, so if any of you have more suggestions of the use of a vocoder in a song, please add it. Cite error: There are tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=M}} template (see the help page). Rabies is a 1989 album by Skinny Puppy.It was released on CD, cassette, and LP by Nettwerk Records in Canada, licensed for release on the same formats to Capitol Records in the United States, and released on CD only by Nettwerk in Europe. entertainment applications (music industry, gaming). Produced by Dave Ogilvie & CEvin Key. It's just too prime an example of brilliant use, by a forerunner of the genre in one of their best songs. Skinny Puppy Interview 1989 City Limits (Part 2 of 2) Delton Ian. Écoutez Worlock (Ed) par Skinny Puppy - Worlock. A link to an article on audio effects for voice or whatever might be good, but including information on the use of ring modulators and comb filters for making robot voices in an article on vocoders seems way too off topic to me, particularly as neither is likely to be confused with a vocoder. They are also pioneers of Industrial, so I am going to return this to the list. Worlock Skinny Puppy. The vocoder is listed in the credits of O' Superman, though many times such things CAN become confusing, due to the nature of different vocal filters. ), not only in the electronic music studios which came up after the war and quite some broadcast stations owned a vocoder. But I like vocoder, on the condition that it's done properly. Skinny Puppy: Worlock ‎ (CD, Single) Nettwerk: W2-3071: Canada: 1990: Sell This Version: Recommendations Reviews Add Review [r838468] Release. How to stop such users ? 4 tracks (21:21). (???) In the first of the three episodes (after approx. What is it for? ~ … Well I'm not sure about any of that, but some citations would be welcome I suppose. There's an unsupported freeware 18 channel software vocoder for Windows, called CYLONIX http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/cyclonix.html, Got rid of the ] after Cylons for the Cylon (1978) wiki link. 04:43 Compositeurs : Ken Marshall - Kevin Crompton - Kevin Ogilvie - … Is that vocoder? A 1994 jam between Skinny Puppy and Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV member Genesis P-Orridge was released under the title Puppy Gristle in 2002 on Key's subCON label. AnalogVocoder1 (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2012 (UTC). the following entries were removed in order to make list cleaner. Instant, still spellbound. 213.39.209.232 07:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC). I didn’t agree with all, but I can say absolutely with the repress of Rabies, if you can’t get the original press, stick with the CD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.147.242.234 (talk) 05:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC), Some peoples seems repeatedly deleting the statements without any preceding notification such as {{Citation needed}} nor searching sources. Now they're watching the people) Same with "Hide and Seek" by Imogen Heap (it's a harmonizer, but not necessarily an Eventide). 1 C! This statement was later commented out using HTML comment tags. --Clusternote (talk) 22:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC). Is it an encryption device? To me, WORLOCK is one of Skinny Puppy's best tracks, despite coming off RABIES, one of their most uneven albums. He's significant because he was the first R&B singer, or African-American singer/musician to extensively use the vocoder. Reply See 1 reply Notify me 3 Helpful kentandrew August 7, 2006 Report; edited over 14 years ago. Skinny Puppy - 08 - Worlock (Live in Budapest) Music. Access the complete album info (10 songs) 2011 BMG Rights Management GmbH 28-10-2011 Handover. 213.255.230.3 (talk) 18:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC). Yesh! I've tried to keep it manageable on several occasions, but it just grows and grows as everyone apparently feels compelled to add their favourite band (/their friend's band) to the list. see : http://aurgasm.us/2005/10/aurgasm-interview-imogen-heap.html. (Give the song a listen, it's a fantastic example of the effect of a vocoder in music) 01. Two more studio albums, 2007's Mythmaker and 2011's Handover, followed before the release of 2012's live album Bootlegged, Broke and in Solvent Seas. Skinny Puppy's Greater Wrong of the Right hit the streets in 2004 with members of Tool, Collide, and Static-X making guest appearances. --Nullcherri 19:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC), I feel the article should focus on the vocoder. The album spawned two singles, "Tin Omen" and "Worlock", the latter of which becoming one of the band's most recognizable songs. 0:50. cevin key interview p3 . Although the exact sound-processing devices used have varied, the original 1963 effect used equalisation to boost the mid-range of the actor's voice, then subjected it to ring modulation with a 30 Hz sine wave. His samples found its way into countless early rap songs as well - particularly on the west coast. I added important vocoder artists Zapp/Roger Troutman, Herbie Hancock. I listed what I would consider to be truly awesome examples of what a vocoder can do. How about a discussion of the use of vocoders in digital telephony? Ovirt . User:Rekoil 10:09, 23 July 2007, I agree it shouldn't be a poorly-choosen ad hoc list of some songs which use vocoders! This page really should be split into two separate articles: networks ( PSTN, wireless, VoIP, secure radios, multiplexors, etc). This band is popular enough to merit them staying on said list. --, Krok (Крок) 2401 Vocoder (Вокодер) [24-band], Moog Modular Vocoder (spectrum encoder-decoder, 10 Band), Moog 16 channel Vocoder (Bode model 7702) [16-band], A-station (Analog Modeling Synthesizer Vocoder), Eiosis ELS Vocoder (software reproduction of, This page was last edited on 11 April 2020, at 01:15. Overall had decent low end though. I was the original person to start making a list of bands and songs which were good examples of the vocoder in use. I assume people's top three were run through the proverbial bottle neck through the years. These two artists have made really extensive and dedicated use of vocoder (most notably on albums "Feets don't Fail me Now" and "Zapp"). Skinny Puppy - Worlock MCD pas cher : retrouvez tous les produits disponibles à l'achat dans notre catégorie mini-disque-video-disque-cassette En utilisant Rakuten, vous acceptez l'utilisation des cookies permettant de vous proposer des contenus personnalisés et de réaliser des statistiques. Écoutez Tin Omen 1 par Skinny Puppy - Worlock. They used the talk-box exclusively. The section on vocoder theory is quite unclear (why discuss human vocalizing??). Better to list certain key artists / tracks which were particular innovative/notable (many of which are already in there) All content copyright © original author unless stated otherwise. ... can be found i.e. However, I strongly disagree with "Worlock" by Skinny Puppy being left off this list. 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