32: 11-14). To protect Moses, God put him “in a cleft in the rock” and covered him with His hand as He passed by (verse 22). 19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on … 14 Turn again, O God of hosts! It was for Moses’s benefit that he received the vision, but it is not a literal description of God. 19 Restore us, O Lord God of hosts! God is outraged at sin, in the same way that you and I get outraged when we see others being unfair to the people we love. One of them bore the name of God (Gen 18:23). Anonymous. Little wonder that YHWH and Moses have become so close, after Moses convinced his God not to destroy the people in spite of their evil at the base of God's mountain (Ex. The text makes it clear that the backside of God is His good side, for it is the “goodness … Judges 13 – An angel appeared to Samson’s parents before he was born. and I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back: but my face shall not be seen. Joshua 5 – An angel who was “commander of the LORD’s army” appeared to Joshua. While in prison those four years Joseph saw God's back and waited for God to reveal His salvation. He was seeing the pre-incarnate Christ. Let’s take a look. God knew him, as we saw from Deuteronomy 34 at the beginning, God knew him face-to-face - and actually God's glory rested upon his face. Of Asaph, a Psalm. 17 And the Lord said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. Does this suggest that Moses got less than he asked for, or less than he had hoped for? The result was that God used these events to raise Joseph up to be the head of Egypt and lead many to faith in God and escape from famine. Clearly, Exodus 33–34 is not informing us that Moses had a glimpse of God’s literal body but only saw his back. 9 You cleared the ground for it; it took deep root and filled the land. In this sweet scene, Moses wants to see God’s glory, and God protects him, by showing his “backside.” The … God's would reveal to Moses His self sufficient, eternal unchanging nature through the meaning of His name. Moses saw the back of God's true and divine and that does not mean Jacob got punked. What could be the shape of God in this context? Moses certainly was in God’s presence, just as he was in His presence when he walked up on Mt. (2)    Since angels differ in rank, then perhaps some angels (or maybe just one angel) is so highly ranked that these rules about dying apply to them (or him), but not to lesser angels. YAHWEH said to Moses: “See, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock; and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by; then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back; but my face shall not be seen.” We can let God’s face shine on us, without getting burnt, because in baptism, we are covered by the pure garments of Christ. Some examples (and there are more): Genesis 18 – Three angels spoke with Abraham and Sarah. Look down from heaven, and see; have regard for this vine, 15 the stock that your right hand planted, and for the son whom you made strong for yourself. The Moses Sees God's Back Bible scriptures located in Exodus 33:12-23 explains directly from God's Word the Moses Sees God's Back topic. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.’” (Exodus 33:19–23). Because God is holy, God cannot tolerate sin. Elder Jeffrey R. Holland recounts the story of Moses and his encounter with the Lord on the mountain. It is an intriguing and important account. Exodus 33:18-23. Here we see that Moses and others saw God with their own eyes. Does God really have a “hand,” “face,” and “back”? Acts 5:19 – An angel rescued Peter from prison. When the hand lifts, Moses' eyes do the same and catch a distant, disappearing glance of the back parts of God. Hardly! After the burning bush, God's relationship with Moses surpasses all other prophets. Generally, we tend to think of the backside of anything as its worst side. 33:12–18). Enter your email address to subscribe to the SOTH blog and receive new posts by email. “Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen,” (Exodus 33:23). A Testimony. He shall see "all his goodness" - he shall have another revelation of the name of God (ver. 16 They have burned it with fire; they have cut it down; may they perish at the rebuke of your face! 13 The boar from the forest ravages it, and all that move in the field feed on it. So, clearly, Moses never truly or fully saw God. GOD'S WORD® Translation Then I will take my hand away, and you'll see my back, but my face must not be seen." © 2021 // Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church - Richfield, WI. Jesus said in John 6:46, “Not that any man has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.” It does not explain why Abraham saw the LORD, not just any angel. “Then,” God promised, “I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen” (verse 23). But theophanies represent events of intensive presence that underline the principle that he is always present with his people and that he is faithful to his word and his covenant.After the incident with the golden calf (Exodus 32), Israel’s future appears to be in doubt. This personal relationship changes everything in our world. 18 Then we shall not turn back from you; give us life, and we will call upon your name! International Standard Version Then I'll remove my hand so you may see my back, … We can see an angel without being killed. Do we die if we see God’s face, but not if we only see his back? Exodus 33:12 And Moses said unto the LORD, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou … God then places Moses in a cleft in the rock, covers Moses with his hand until God passes by, then removes his hand so Moses may see only his back. This was how Moses “came to Horeb, the mountain of God.” When Moses saw the lamb drink thirstily from the brook, he said, “Little lamb, had I known that you were so thirsty, I would have carried you to the water on my own back!” After hearing that, God said, “Moses is worthy of being the leader of my people.” That is possible, but less likely than the next possibility. Restore Us, O God Whatever he saw of God’s nature transformed into blazing light is referred to as “God’s back” and was never subsequently described by Moses … The person who brings up the rear is the loser. Shepherd of the Hills, a Lutheran Church, located in Richfield, Wisconsin serves the surrounding communities including Hubertus, Colgate, Slinger, Germantown and Menomonee Falls. God did not show his glory to Jacob if you read God was in the form of a man and not in his true divine form. 5 You have fed them with the bread of tears and given them tears to drink in full measure. 18); and, further, he shall be so placed as to see as much as mortal man can behold of "his glory" - God will pass by him, and when he has passed, Moses shall be allowed to look after him, and see what is here called "his back." 6 You make us an object of contention for our neighbors, and our enemies laugh among themselves. God is present throughout the events of the exodus. Judges 6:12 – An angel appeared to Gideon. Yet, the first verse states that he saw God’s face then continued to live. I can think of three possible ways of understanding why Moses saw God’s back. But later, Moses was not allowed to see God's face. 80 Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, you who lead Joseph like a flock. Should High Holy days be observed today as in New Testament times. Did God exist before he was born to Mary? Because of this, we cannot see God’s face and live: God’s holiness would meet our sin, and destroy the sin, and us in the process! And even after God, says I will be with you, We see Moses is still hesitant, he says. Moses requests that God show him his glory (Ex. 18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. At first glance, the Lord would speak to Moses face to face then later tells Him he can’t see His face and live. Ouch! Three times prayer asks “let your face shine, that we might be saved.” When God’s face shines on us, it means we are in a personal, face-to-face relationship with God. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” 21 And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock. 17 But let your hand be on the man of your right hand, the son of man whom you have made strong for yourself! Today’s passage is one of several which help us to stop taking God’s graciousness for granted. To the choirmaster: according to Lilies. Moses (/ ˈ m oʊ z ɪ z,-z ɪ s /), also known as Moshe Rabbenu (Hebrew: מֹשֶׁה רַבֵּנוּ ‎ lit. And does God need such things as literal hands with opposable thumbs? Exodus 33:18-23 Moses said, “Please show me your glory.” (19) And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The LORD.’ Because of this, we cannot see God’s face and live: God’s holiness would meet our sin, and destroy the sin, and us in the process! That is, Moses could learn about God's glory through God's name as well. 15 For Gregory of Nazanius, what Moses saw was not Jesus, but "the back parts of God, which he leaves behind him as token of himself, like the shadows and reflections of the sun in the water, which show the sun to our weak eyes, because he is too strong for our power of perception." (1)    God actually has literal body parts. 2 Before Ephraim and Benjamin and Manasseh, stir up your might and come to save us!3 Restore us, O God; let your face shine, that we may be saved! Is God a physical person with literal body parts including a face, a hand and a back? YHWH God visited Moses in Mount Sinai but Moses could see only the back side of God. Who did Moses see when he saw the backside of God? Using Human Traits to Describe God Unraveling the problem begins with a simple truth: God is spirit. 4 O Lord God of hosts, how long will you be angry with your people’s prayers? 17 And the Lord said to Moses, “This very thing that you have spoken I will do, for you have found favor in my sight, and I know you by name.” 18 Moses said, “Please show me your glory.” 19 And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The Lord.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. But He said, “You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!” – Exodus 33:20. Exodus 24:10 tell us that Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and the seventy elders “saw the God of Israel.” Moses was even said to have had the unique honor of speaking to God “face to face” (Deut. Rather, it is telling us that the Lord revealed to Moses that his glory was his holy character by which he is both merciful and just, gracious and good. It is like turning on the spiritual lights: when we know God personally, we begin to know the truth about God, ourselves, and our world. 1 Kings 19 – An angel appeared to Elijah. 8 You brought a vine out of Egypt; you drove out the nations and planted it. In this sweet scene, Moses wants to see God’s glory, and God protects him, by showing his “backside.” The good news for us is that we live in the new covenant. Scripture can be used, however, to pinpoint the year—1446 BC—in which the Exodus is likely to have occurred. Good News Translation Then I will take my hand away, and you will see my back but not my face." Shortly after his vision, Moses is tempted by Satan. There are other Bible passages where people saw an angel’s face without any harm. YHWH God visited Moses in Mount Sinai but Moses could see only the back side of God. A person from the back woods is viewed as ignorant and poorly educated. You who are enthroned upon the cherubim, shine forth. The Old Testament, however records some instances where God’s people were said to see some aspect of God. Exodus 33:18-23  Moses said, “Please show me your glory.”  (19)  And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The LORD.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. The devil, we are told, gets the hindmost. Let your face shine, that we may be saved! 7 Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! Luke 1:11 – An angel appeared to the father of John the Baptist. In this more intensive meeting, described in Exodus 34:5–28, As is usual with theoph… Based on that date, many scholars believe that the Pharaoh of the Exodus may have been Amenhotep II, the grandfather of K… 34:10). Maimonides on Moses Seeing God’s Face / Back Guide to the Perplexed: Part One, Chapters 37 and 38 On Exodus 33:12-23 Samuel Ready I) Introduction Exodus 33: 12-23 presents a conversation between Moses and G-d shortly after the incident of the golden calf, after which Moses returns enlightened. 18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.” 19 And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. But if we see the face (but not the back or hands) of God then we will die. So, Moses saw God's glory passing by, which means a change of position. 12 Why then have you broken down its walls, so that all who pass along the way pluck its fruit? (23)  Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen.”. Everyone is welcome! (20)  But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.”  (21)  And the LORD said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock,  (22)  and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Since God is spirit (John 4:24), He does not truly have a “face.” Exodus 33:11 is simply saying that God and Moses had a … This is not a satisfactory answer for two reasons that I can think of. In the New Testament, we learn that Moses and Jacob did not see God in some abstract, intangible way. This passage prompts several questions. Teams, Task forces, Councils and Committees, Lifeway Spiritual Gift Survey and Resources, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), July 12: The Sower and the Good Soil (Guest Pastor Jake Taxis). And yet Moses is said to see the “backside” of God in our text. Moses was not focused on personal success, but on the God who could be known. Moses was allowed to see the back view of God as He passed by. (3)    On this particular occasion when Moses witnessed God’s glory, God chose to exhibit such a glorious light that it would have caused death if seen directly. 11 It sent out its branches to the sea and its shoots to the River. More importantly it does not make sense for the creator of the universe, who made all things including material things, for himself to be made of the materials he created. God also said to Moses say to the israelites, the lord, the god of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob has sent me to you. Therefore, human wisdom and judgment is folly and the wise man trusts that God What could be the shape of God in this context? And so Moses, cowering beneath the umbrella of God's palm, waits, surely with face bowed, eyes covered, and pulse racing until God gives the signal. Notwithstanding God’s being gracious and compassionate to whomever He chose, Moses could not see God’s face and live. 5 1. But note that Moses couldn't see God's face for He said that 'no man shall see me and live!' First of all you have it all wrong. 9 years ago. Moses could see God’s back, but not His full glory (that is, His face). 10 The mountains were covered with its shade, the mighty cedars with its branches. Psalm suggestion: Psalm 80: In addition to the readings below, try reading and reflecting on Psalm 80 each day this week. 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